How to Get Free Traffic without Google: Interview with Jon Wedel

How to Get Free Traffic Without Google

In this interview, we have the pleasure of hearing from Jon Wedel, and 18 year old free traffic whiz. I recently picked up his course on getting free traffic I could tell that Jon is someone who has spent his time in the trenches learning and actually doing this… so I contacted him about an interview. Here it is:

What got you interested in starting an online business and how did you get started?

I started off when I was about 13 years old. I had seen people around me my whole life working hard at jobs to only be stuck paying bills. I decided that the lifestyle of trading my time away for money wasn’t for me, and looked for alternatives. I found internet marketing and decided that the lifestyle associated with it was perfect for me.

I tried promoting a Clickbank product about shoulder pain. I did article marketing and tried to rank on Google for a bunch of different keywords. I never made any money from it and couldn’t figure out why. The end result? The product was total garbage, along with the sales page. To date I’ve delivered thousands upon thousands of clicks to the offer and not made a cent from that offer.

Then came CPA marketing. I heard it was a fast-track way to make money so I looked into it. Most methods required paid traffic and being 13 or 14 at the time, I didn’t have the funds to invest. I started looking towards free traffic methods and it all started from there. I earned my first dollar, repeated the process, and grew outwards.

Fun Fact: I still have the shoulder pain website to this day for sentimental reasons

Did you have any failures early on and what did you learn from them? 

Definitely! I think everybody starting out in internet marketing has (or should have) failures. My biggest problem was that I liked the idea of the lifestyle associated with internet marketing, but I was too lazy to actually put in the required work to get where I wanted. I got sold by the hyped up world of “you can be lazy and rich” and it really wasn’t working out. I learned that the only way to succeed is to put in the hard work and build up a real business.

What’s the main thing that made the difference for you in becoming successful?

There are two main things that made a big difference. The first one was the realization that hard work turns into success. I finally realized that there is no such thing as push button profits and magic bullets. Realizing this was kind of a hard moment for me… it was like my dream of internet marketing was ruined. I sat back and thought about it and realized that people do make money online but they actually work for it. The people earning good money weren’t sitting on a beach somewhere doing nothing while counting cash… they were online WORKING HARD.

The second thing is something I think is the absolute most important piece of advice someone new to the game of online marketing. You ready?

Pick something. Stick to it. Get results.

Too many people get caught up jumping from method to method and trying different things but never sticking to one. This is commonly referred to as the “shiny object syndrome” and is a very real problem in online marketing. There are so many opportunities and ways to earn money online you can’t just choose one – so you try them all. I think most people have done this and most will agree that you only see success once you start to focus on one thing and bring it to results.

Looking back at my past  attempts to earn money, I now realize my failures would have been successes if I hadn’t thrown in the towel so soon.

What’s the best piece of “big picture” advice you would give to someone just starting their online business?

Start somewhere. Anywhere. I know it’s hard, I know it’s scary, but it’s worth it! The whole world of opportunities opens up once you take your first step.  Furthermore, once you take that first step continue to work in that direction until you see results. If you have a solid game plan and consistently take action on it – you will succeed.

What is your system for sitting down and getting work done on a daily or weekly basis?

I’m a big fan of white boards. I’ve got one sitting right beside my desk where I make gigantic to-do lists that help to keep me motivated. I create a list on paper on my desk as well and make it each night before I finish up work, so I know what I have to do the next day.

Obviously I don’t follow it to a tee but it’s nice to have as a guideline to see if I’m being as productive as I should be. If I don’t finish something that’s on my list, I move it on to the next day. Stuff happens and you might not get it done, but at least it’s a good reminder to actually finish it!

What could you have done that would have made you successful sooner?

It might be the ultimate internet marketing cliché, but if I had to start all over with no knowledge at all, I would find one good method, one that has been proven to bring in money time and time again.

Stick with that method until one of two things happens:

  1. You get results. Awesome, stick to it and do it again and again.
  2. You realize you’re doing it wrong. Find out why, correct it, and reach success.

What would you tell people just starting out that they should focus on?

Focus on a single method. I don’t care if it’s building adsense websites, creating products, CPA marketing – it really doesn’t matter. If you focus on one thing and stick to it you will learn the process behind making money.

Once that first dollar comes in, an entire world is opened up to you. You can scale it up, branch outward, and ultimately realize that you can earn money online. Make that first dollar and go from there – your first project doesn’t have to be a blockbuster but it should set you up to produce more and more successful projects.

Why do some people succeed online and others never do?

It’s funny how once people start to learn that you earn an income online, they all want to learn how to do it. For some reason people think that earning money online is super easy and requires no real work. These are the people who will not succeed until they realize how untrue it really is.

Too many people come in with high hopes and no work ethic. This is a recipe for disaster and leads to people throwing in the towel too soon. Like I said before, stick to it – you might fail for 6 months until you earn that first dollar.

That first dollar might seem small, but it is life changing. It’s at that moment you sit back and think:

“ I can do this. I can really earn money online.”

And from there a whole world of opportunity is opened.

How has running your own online business changed your life?

Knowing that I’ll never have to work a “real job”? It’s awesome.

It’s a nice feeling knowing that no matter where I am in the world, no matter what situation I’m in, I’ll be able to access the internet and earn money. It’s truly a blessing and I’m happy that I finally got over my initial phase of laziness and put in the true hard work that allowed me to reach this stage.

What motivates you to keep going and become even more successful?

I made the mistake of getting too comfortable and relying only on one source of income early on in my career online. When that source dried up, I lost everything. It was devastating but it was a lesson well learnt.

Since that happened I have always worked on expanding my business and trying to diversify into as many different fields as possible. At first it was grueling work but now it’s something that I enjoy doing and wouldn’t change for anything.

Another thing that’s really important to me is understanding that it’s impossible to know everything. There are so many new methods and lucrative opportunities out there that I can’t wait to learn about – but not until I finish what I’ve already got going!

How much of your time do you dedicate to: 1) self-education and learning new skills 2) generating new traffic, leads and customers for your business and 3) generating revenue?

I like this question because I think too many people focus too much time in the wrong areas. I’ve got a lot on my plate right now as far as ideas I want to go after, new methods I want to try, etc. so I don’t spend too much time learning new skills BUT – I’ll never stop. This is an ongoing process where you can never learn everything there is to learn, so I’m always doing my best to put a solid effort out there to learn more.

Lots of my focus is placed on generating traffic and getting customers, because in the end that’s what generates you revenue. I’ve found that by putting customers first you will find that the money follows. I know it sounds like total crap but it’s just the way things work. This is all crucial in building a solid online business, rather than a simple one-off method to earn money.

I wasted so much time spinning my tires trying to chase money, but it was when I focused on building a real business that I started earning.

You seem to teach mostly about traffic strategies… What is the top skill that someone needs to learn in order to always be able to generate traffic?

You want to know the secret to getting traffic? Be social. That’s where the internet is heading now, and I’m sure that’s where it will stay. In the last year we have seen such a huge shift to social aspects of marketing and you need to know how to take advantage of it.

Find out what makes people feel the need to share content, learn how to spice up your website’s content so people feel that need to share.

If you learn what makes people tick and how to get deep within them and make them share, you’ll forever be a traffic generating machine.

What traffic strategies are working for you right now, and are there any that will always work in your opinion?

Since I already mentioned being social (which will always work in my opinion) I recommended mastering the art of getting inside of your users heads. Sound creepy? It’s not really!

Always be thinking like your prospect/user/buyer would and ask the question “what’s in it for me?”

Try to use this knowledge to offer them something of value. Put together a free report for them on the subject and then use other websites in the niche to drive traffic to your own using a call to action.

Where can you go to do this? Think of places where other people are leaving low quality backlinks. Use these exact same places but put big, bold calls to action with an enticing offer.

Methods like posting to forums, document sharing websites, getting guest posts publishes, press releases published, and so on are all very much alive. You just need to create that perfect enticing offer and then get it out there as much as you can. Remember you can do this by asking that very important question of “what’s in it for me?”.

If someone only has 20 minutes a day to dedicate to generating free traffic, what is the best use of their time?

If I only had 20 minutes to spend getting free traffic I would do a few things.

First, I’d work on building up a solid following on social communities (forums, Reddit, StumbleUpon) and become an authority there. These kinds of followings last a lifetime and can bring you steady, consistent traffic for a very long time.

Look for places where you can leave calls to action and start becoming everywhere within your niche, once you get the hang of finding where to post them – you can do it over and over again.

Getting free traffic is so easy once you have a good system in place. A good system to me is one that you can scale up and repeat multiple times. Obviously finding places to leave calls to action is both very repeatable and very scalable, so try it out!

Where can people go to learn more from you?

I would recommend starting with my course, Traffic Shockwave, where I detail my exact system for generating a lot of free, non-Google traffic.

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  • Ryan Smith

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    Definitely need to start getting social with my own sites! It would be good to be an authority figure in the niche you’re in. I can imagine getting a lot of traffic that way.

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 23, 2012

      Ryan- yep, it works and it’s really not that hard… you don’t need to try to be on the Today show or anything.

  • Gary Stenzel

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    I need to learn more about using social sites to get more traffic.

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 23, 2012

      Gary- It’s important, definitely… but, it should all lead back to you building your email list.

  • SEAN

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    Great Interview. Internet marketing really does have it’s own unique psychology and neuroses like the “shiny object” syndrome. The perpetual learning behavior some people exhibit instead of actually getting down to work is probably a universal problem. In a way it’s like we don’t truly believe we have what it takes to be successful or something – so we keep looking for that new course! But really, if we just did something and focused on it we would be successful.
    I like the tip about focusing – it makes me think about the analogy of a magnifying glass and the sun.

    Anyway, I’m going ahead and getting that whiteboard, sounds like an easy way to get more organized.

    Cheers, Sean

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 23, 2012

      Sean- Again, great insight buddy.

      Yeah the whiteboard idea is great, as it keeps your goals literally right in front of you instead of having to open a notebook or a program – as lazy as that sounds…

  • Matson Magleby

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    I thought one of Jon’s best tips was to pick ONE thing and focus on it until you are successful. I know you have been giving the same advice, so I guess I should start listening.

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 23, 2012

      Matson- Yep… simple, unsexy advice but it’s the foundation.

  • Andrew

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    Great interview.

    I purchased Jon’s course on traffic generation as per Nate’s recommendation and I’ve already noticed traffic increases. I haven’t even found the time to pump out all his requirements that make up the Traffic Shockwave yet, and I’m certain when I do I’ll drive even more free traffic to my main site.

    Ever since I’ve followed Nate and his guides on how to make it online I’ve found myself pushed to learn new things and my success has gradually started to happen.

    I’m excited for the next few months goals wise, and I’m hoping to get some real traction in my niche.

    Thanks Nate and Jon,
    Keep teaching!

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 23, 2012

      Andrew- Way to implement… that’s what happens.

      I’m glad to hear Strayblogger has been helpful.

      • Andrew

        Reply Reply July 26, 2012

        Hey Nate,

        I just thought I’d re-visit my post and state for people on the fence that I am having CRAZY success with Jon’s methods.

        In about one week I’ve increased the traffic to my site by over 1000%. Yup, one thousand percent!

        I’m also starting to get requests for guest posts and I haven’t even completely implemented all of the parts of his Traffic Shockwave completely.

        Good times!

        • Nate

          Reply Reply July 26, 2012

          Andrew- That’s awesome.

          Again, just an example of taking action on something new you’ve learned.

          Great job.

  • Craig Blair

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    For me, ALL of his recommendations were good and made a lot of sense… but the one thing that I realized was crucial for me was to get a whiteboard, make lists and get my tasks organized. I tend to get lost, forget or get distracted. I will stop that NOW!

    I’m going to focus on ONE method of Internet Marketing, and read, understand, and implement “Traffic Shockwave” TODAY!

    I really thank you for this jab, this kick in the butt that I needed!

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 23, 2012

      Craig- Keeping tasks organized and having a clear direction as to what you should be working on at all times is a huge help to getting things done.

      And you’re welcome 😉

    • Andrew

      Reply Reply July 26, 2012

      Hey Craig,

      I’m hoping you’ve auto-notify on for replies to this thread.

      A simple alternative to Jon’s whiteboard method is to create a spreadsheet. It might not be as sexy as a whiteboard nor as “visible”, but if you create one in Google Docs for example it is always accessible.

      For example, to keep track of my work load and article writing requirements, I have a spreadsheet in Google Docs that I use to track the date, article topic, any products I’m promoting in the post, keywords related to the post and whether or not I’ve actually written the article. The last part is simply just a drop down with yes and no options. If the answer is no, I have to state a reason next to it. This tool alone has kept me writing and after a while gets pretty populated.

      If you’d like a copy let me know.

      PS: Nate, if this post isn’t appropriate just let me know.


      • Nate

        Reply Reply July 26, 2012

        Andrew- Great advice. I do the same thing actually.

        I keep track site by site of articles and backlink efforts in spreadsheets, then for larger tasks or ‘projects’ I use Wunderlist and a whiteboard sometimes.

  • Kimberly

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    The best tip is being social. That’s not going away no matter how many pandas and penguins wreak havoc on the interwebs.

    cheers guys – (trying to figure out the app you used)

  • Nate

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    Thanks Kimberly- If you’re referring to the Facebook like thing, it’s a plugin.

  • Patrick

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    His best tip was to stick with one method and focus on that until it makes you money. It’s nothing that isn’t advocated here on strayblogger, but it’s always a great reminder for me especially. I’ll be applying Jon’s “be social” mindset to my business and focus on how I can make my content worth sharing and worth talking about. Word of mouth marketing via online mediums is where it’s at! I’ll be adding share buttons and thinking of incentives for sharing/liking my posts.

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 24, 2012

      Patrick- Yep, you’ve got the idea.

      Thanks for reading.

  • aleshia

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    Def the white board sounds like a great investement..I actually have been thinking about getting one before reading way to go to confirm my thoughts…I write stuff down all the time on papersssss..and they end op everywhere or missing.

    One question I have is what does he mean by being everywhere in your niche?

    I think he made a point about saying..think like a buyer..people really are selfish when it.comes down to it and always want to see more value than what hour product might have..but its perception that sells..not reality

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 24, 2012

      Aleshia- I do the same thing with writing on paper… I really like the idea of a whiteboard as well.

      I have a small one but I’m going to get a giant one.

  • Edward White

    Reply Reply July 23, 2012

    I like his tip to staying with one method. It so easy to get sidetracked into doing so many things. Once you get that going, and make the first dollar, then you can branch out.

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 24, 2012

      Edward- Very true my friend. Most people sit around and think, “what method will make me 6 figures?” which is totally the wrong question to start out with.

  • Rachel

    Reply Reply July 24, 2012

    Jon’s best advice was to never rely on one source of income. That’s too risky.

    My favorite point he made is that making money on the Internet is hard work!

  • Matt Clark

    Reply Reply July 24, 2012

    Great interview and plenty of words of wisdom from Jon here. Really enjoyed his perspectives on going after 1 method for making money online until you’re successful with it, then rinse and repeat.

    Also, his notion of diversifying online income streams is another gold nugget. He knows his stuff! Thanks for sharing this with us Nate!

    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 24, 2012

      Matt- Yeah he’s a smart kid.

      And you’re welcome!

  • Nick Messenger

    Reply Reply July 24, 2012


    This is really proving to be your strength – really enjoyed another fantastic interview!

    My one over-riding thought, while I was reading it, was sticking to one method. Speaking for myself, I think people jump around because they haven`t found something that suits them & they need to find another way of doing things!

    How can you be expected to find one method at the outset? To me that`s like asking how do you want to earn your living for the rest of your life?


    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 24, 2012

      Nick- Not sticking to one thing is the income-killer. It’s like trying to get good at 15 different sports at the same time.

  • This is a great interview! Always love hearing from other young people in the internet marketing world 🙂 Definitely his best tip is focusing. So many people get discouraged after not seeing results after their first website, first app, first eBook, etc. I always tell people on my site that “Angry Birds” was not Rovio’s first app (I believe it was in the 40-50 range) – but what if they gave up after only 1 or 2 apps?


    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 24, 2012

      Thomas- Yeah, looking back the #1 thing I did that finally led to success was not giving up. My first website was a 2-year failure, and I think most people give up way before that.

      That’s interesting about Rovio- didn’t know that.

  • Renee

    Reply Reply July 24, 2012

    How ironic that it took one so young to remind me of the internet marketing fundamentals. Thanks Jon!

  • Oliver

    Reply Reply July 25, 2012

    Hey, Nate.

    Great interview you have here. I really like the part about picking one method and sticking with it. Most of this advice is pretty generic, but it is all true and effective.

    So many people are looking for that push-button stuff, and they fail to realize that the simplest advice, such as what is shared in this article, is the most effective when it comes to achieving success. Great interview, it sounds like Jon knows his stuff.


    • Nate

      Reply Reply July 25, 2012

      Oliver- yeah, very true. The biggest thing is that when you put in a lot of time just working, you start to figure out all the little tricks.

  • Andrew

    Reply Reply August 1, 2012

    Hey Nate,

    Thanks for the gift card 😉

    • Nate

      Reply Reply August 1, 2012

      You’re welcome

    • Aleshia

      Reply Reply August 2, 2012

      Yes Nate,

      The Amazon gift card was very much appreciated. It was actually the first time I think I have ever won anything…made me feel special for a will use it wisely.

      Thanks so much!

      • Nate

        Reply Reply August 2, 2012

        Aleshia- Good, I’m glad.

        You’re welcome.

  • Michelle

    Reply Reply August 2, 2012

    Brilliant interview thanks.

    I’m really concentrating on getting traffic to my blog at the moment and especially like the idea of being social. I think this is what I will be putting my efforts into next .

    Thanks again

    • Nate

      Reply Reply August 6, 2012

      You’re welcome Michelle, thanks for reading.

  • Jasper

    Reply Reply November 15, 2012

    This is some very powerful knowledge and I promise I’m going to get it even though I work a regular job I still have a burning desire to make a lot of money online. I said a lot because some people would be happy with what I make now online but I want to make big money.

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