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Hi Nate – thanks for the quick response about blog
networks. I had just signed up to BMR and they mentioned
there was a waiting list so I don’t have a problem now as there is no BMR! Also, I had seen Pat Flynn’s stuff on
backlinking and liked it a lot, especially the buffer zone.
Thanks for all the useful information on what can be done in the future.
Its a real shame what Google has done, still I guess in 2-3 years time, there will still be people killing it with some new business model that will make gazillions $, but then again some of the old tried and true methods will no doubt still work well.
I’m guessing article marketing itself is still alive and well?
BTW- Has this affected any of your niche video websites?
Warren- a few of them have dropped, one of them out of sight in Google’s rankings, but it’s #3 on Bing. Bing’s traffic is anemic though…
But yeah, article syndication, if you can build a network of webmasters who publish your stuff that’s kind of the dream as Google’s not involved whatsoever. I’m not an expert in that yet though, I just understand how it’s supposed to work and I’m getting there.
Hi Nate. Tanx for your thoughts on BMR, networks in general and where you will be headed moving forward. It all makes a ton of sense. As I told you before, if you find a replacement for BMR, put up your affiliate link and I am in. All the best, Chris
Nate, great stuff, thanks, i like your idea of building a rolodex, solid long term strategy. I enjoy all your posts. I enjoy writing and editing so the auth site thing is attractive to me. However, with a niche site, if you are wrong on the topic, you only lose perhaps $80. If you are wrong on the topic on an auth site, you could lose $1,000. So i would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how to pick an auth site topic. Do you consider a bunch of KW’s from a variety of fields and then pick the one that has the best metrics? Or do you pick a topic that interests you first, and then look for keywords within that topic that are rankable? Do you have more than one way to pick a niche? Thanks, Fred. p.s. a much better photo above than that one with the headphones!
Thanks Fred. You can definitely waste a lot of time building a blog on a topic that no one is interested in… but it’s hard to miss if you choose niche topic within a big market that people spend a ton of money in… Think of niches that have a lot of physical products associated with them that you can recommend in your site once in awhile such as cooking, camping, specific sports, home decorating… pretty much any product category from the Amazon bestseller list. Then for content articles find long tail keywords to write articles around.
I’m with you on buffer sites with UAW. I’m glad that you came out with this podcast. A lot of the other blogs I follow haven’t touched this topic yet. Not sure why. Must be in crisis clean up mode.
I’ve been slow with my backlinking and I’ve actually seen increases in all my sites (all 6 of them).
However, I did use BMR but only about 10 posts per site. Tick tock.
Thanks Jason- like I mentioned in the podcast my results are pretty weird… one pagers staying at the top while sites under 10 pages have dropped, and then bigger sites ranking higher.. who knows.
People steal and republish my content all the time from EZA.
When they do provide a link back it’s great, when they don’t it’s too bad, as I have to go through the hassle of getting their content taken down.
But it goes to show that good content rules and there’s no reason for that to ever change.
And what you are explaining here shows that there is a constant race between the SEs and those who try to game them for better results.
If Google are targeting “over-optimized” sites then I guess that means that the likes of the SBI, interlinked cookiecutter sites will get yet another slap, which is about the 8th one in a year.
Matt- you’re definitely right about content. What size articles do you post to EZA usually? And do you see more syndication above a certain number or words per article?
Nate – article size is around 600-700 words. Those have got syndicated like crazy.
I also sometimes submit articles that are over 1000 words in length.
But if some content searcher finds your article and scans it, it’s fairly easy to see if you know what you’re talking about.
I’d say if a potential syndicator is scanning for good articles, yours will only stand out if it’s good, useful content with facts and opinion intertwined. Hope that makes sense.
Good post. I think your reasoning is right on. A few thoughts. I’m not sure I see that buffer page linking buys you any security if Google expands targeting IM SEO linking. A lot of artificial backlinks to one page that in turn links back to one other page seems pretty easy for them to figure out. I think until we get some idea how aggressively Google is going to penalize sites for what they consider artificial linking its best to stick to more long term white hat methods you talk about.
We tend to get so caught up in the game of SEO that we forget that maybe the best way to gain sustainable non google traffic is simply to identify good niches and sell them stuff directly that they want. What a revolutionary concept . Affiliate, dropshiped or direct sales, whatever. But if you do this well people will tell their friends in the niche community, you will get traffic. This fits perfectly with the long term strategy of building authority sites.
Great podcast I currently have about 60 niche sites, never used BMR, always thought it was a spammy way to get links .
I do use UAW however and my sites are doing just fine, with that said right now about 10 of my sites are making 80% of my money and I totally agree with what you are saying about building them out its what I am doing going forward in tghe long run its going to be a more solid business model.
Also for article syndication check out Isnare they have a distribution network and I have used it for ages and it gets you tonnes of backlinks.
I usually submit to Ezine articles, Articles Base, Go Articles and Isnare, then you can also do some social bookmarking and blog commenting, this stuff all still works it just takes a little more of your time.
Thanks Carl- Yeah overall I have really liked UAW and it’s worked as promised for the most part… we’ll see how it keeps working in the future. The bottom line is they’ve been around a very long time and survived who knows how many Google updates.
Interesting to hear UAW compared favourably to BMR!
I use UAW and it does seem to work sometimes, a bit, if the niche isn’t competitive, however the sites in the network are pretty dire if you looked at them (before they removed this facility).
I think the reason they went after BMR was that it worked and was powerful. PR links are/were always going to.
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31 Responses to “PPP 012: BMR Closing, The State of SEO, Plan Moving Forward”
Mary Chicoine
Hi Nate – thanks for the quick response about blog
networks. I had just signed up to BMR and they mentioned
there was a waiting list so I don’t have a problem now as there is no BMR! Also, I had seen Pat Flynn’s stuff on
backlinking and liked it a lot, especially the buffer zone.
Thanks for all the useful information on what can be done in the future.
All the best,
Mary C.
Nate
You’re welcome Mary- It’s all constantly changing, but so is any business, really.
Tom Mc Carrick
One thing I have found about Unique Article Wizard – the quality of articles is atrocious. I’m not using it anymore
Nate
I’m not sure what you mean Tom… because you submit the articles… do you mean the ones you get if you have their plugin installed?
By the way, your site is showing a fatal error- I don’t know if you’re aware of that or not.
Tom Mc Carrick
Hi Nate
I mean that the grammar is poor and most of them are obviously spun articles. Some of the articles make little or no sense.
Tom
Nate
Gotcha… yeah I think most users just buy PLR, spin that 100 times and then have a lot of “unique” articles they can throw into UAW
Warren T
Hi Nate
Its a real shame what Google has done, still I guess in 2-3 years time, there will still be people killing it with some new business model that will make gazillions $, but then again some of the old tried and true methods will no doubt still work well.
I’m guessing article marketing itself is still alive and well?
BTW- Has this affected any of your niche video websites?
Nate
Warren- a few of them have dropped, one of them out of sight in Google’s rankings, but it’s #3 on Bing. Bing’s traffic is anemic though…
But yeah, article syndication, if you can build a network of webmasters who publish your stuff that’s kind of the dream as Google’s not involved whatsoever. I’m not an expert in that yet though, I just understand how it’s supposed to work and I’m getting there.
Chris Borg
Hi Nate. Tanx for your thoughts on BMR, networks in general and where you will be headed moving forward. It all makes a ton of sense. As I told you before, if you find a replacement for BMR, put up your affiliate link and I am in. All the best, Chris
Nate
Thanks Chris. I’m leaning towards Article Ranks… I’ll let you know how I like it.
fred
Nate, great stuff, thanks, i like your idea of building a rolodex, solid long term strategy. I enjoy all your posts. I enjoy writing and editing so the auth site thing is attractive to me. However, with a niche site, if you are wrong on the topic, you only lose perhaps $80. If you are wrong on the topic on an auth site, you could lose $1,000. So i would be interested in hearing your thoughts on how to pick an auth site topic. Do you consider a bunch of KW’s from a variety of fields and then pick the one that has the best metrics? Or do you pick a topic that interests you first, and then look for keywords within that topic that are rankable? Do you have more than one way to pick a niche? Thanks, Fred. p.s. a much better photo above than that one with the headphones!
Nate
Thanks Fred. You can definitely waste a lot of time building a blog on a topic that no one is interested in… but it’s hard to miss if you choose niche topic within a big market that people spend a ton of money in… Think of niches that have a lot of physical products associated with them that you can recommend in your site once in awhile such as cooking, camping, specific sports, home decorating… pretty much any product category from the Amazon bestseller list. Then for content articles find long tail keywords to write articles around.
Mike Sweetman
Great work Nate! I was looking forward to your responds to this news…and I’m now looking forward to hearing more about article syndication =>
Thanks,
Mike
Nate
Thanks for listening Mike- glad you got something out of it.
Jason
I’m with you on buffer sites with UAW. I’m glad that you came out with this podcast. A lot of the other blogs I follow haven’t touched this topic yet. Not sure why. Must be in crisis clean up mode.
I’ve been slow with my backlinking and I’ve actually seen increases in all my sites (all 6 of them).
However, I did use BMR but only about 10 posts per site. Tick tock.
Nate
Thanks Jason- like I mentioned in the podcast my results are pretty weird… one pagers staying at the top while sites under 10 pages have dropped, and then bigger sites ranking higher.. who knows.
Joe
I think Link Authority is the replacement for BMR:
http://www.linkauthority.com/?ref=53ac10e24698655f0aab6f7175aa7c00
I’m still using UAW but like you say will now start only linking it to Web 2.0s and satellite sites.
I was doing that before but was doing one link in the resource box to the money site and the other site to a Web 2.0 site.
Anyone know of a good tool (not SENuke) for creating WEb 2.0 accounts?
SEO Geezer
Didnt Google de index almost 25% of Link Authorities network a few weeks ago?
Nate
I heard that, but I obviously don’t know for a fact- there’s been rumors the last week about all the blog networks.
Nate
Joe- Yeah I’ve looked into them, still havent’ decided for sure. I’ll probably try a few different ones.
Matt
Hey Nate,
Tops tips here, thanks.
People steal and republish my content all the time from EZA.
When they do provide a link back it’s great, when they don’t it’s too bad, as I have to go through the hassle of getting their content taken down.
But it goes to show that good content rules and there’s no reason for that to ever change.
And what you are explaining here shows that there is a constant race between the SEs and those who try to game them for better results.
If Google are targeting “over-optimized” sites then I guess that means that the likes of the SBI, interlinked cookiecutter sites will get yet another slap, which is about the 8th one in a year.
Nate
Matt- you’re definitely right about content. What size articles do you post to EZA usually? And do you see more syndication above a certain number or words per article?
Matt
Nate – article size is around 600-700 words. Those have got syndicated like crazy.
I also sometimes submit articles that are over 1000 words in length.
But if some content searcher finds your article and scans it, it’s fairly easy to see if you know what you’re talking about.
I’d say if a potential syndicator is scanning for good articles, yours will only stand out if it’s good, useful content with facts and opinion intertwined. Hope that makes sense.
Bob
Nate
Good post. I think your reasoning is right on. A few thoughts. I’m not sure I see that buffer page linking buys you any security if Google expands targeting IM SEO linking. A lot of artificial backlinks to one page that in turn links back to one other page seems pretty easy for them to figure out. I think until we get some idea how aggressively Google is going to penalize sites for what they consider artificial linking its best to stick to more long term white hat methods you talk about.
We tend to get so caught up in the game of SEO that we forget that maybe the best way to gain sustainable non google traffic is simply to identify good niches and sell them stuff directly that they want. What a revolutionary concept
. Affiliate, dropshiped or direct sales, whatever. But if you do this well people will tell their friends in the niche community, you will get traffic. This fits perfectly with the long term strategy of building authority sites.
Nate
Bob- you’re right in principle- there’s no guaranteed way of doing it… all trial and error really.
I know a few people who have set up small niche sites specifically for drop shipping but I don’t know anything about it…
Carl
Great podcast I currently have about 60 niche sites, never used BMR, always thought it was a spammy way to get links .
I do use UAW however and my sites are doing just fine, with that said right now about 10 of my sites are making 80% of my money and I totally agree with what you are saying about building them out its what I am doing going forward in tghe long run its going to be a more solid business model.
Also for article syndication check out Isnare they have a distribution network and I have used it for ages and it gets you tonnes of backlinks.
I usually submit to Ezine articles, Articles Base, Go Articles and Isnare, then you can also do some social bookmarking and blog commenting, this stuff all still works it just takes a little more of your time.
Nate
Thanks Carl- Yeah overall I have really liked UAW and it’s worked as promised for the most part… we’ll see how it keeps working in the future. The bottom line is they’ve been around a very long time and survived who knows how many Google updates.
Joe
Interesting to hear UAW compared favourably to BMR!
I use UAW and it does seem to work sometimes, a bit, if the niche isn’t competitive, however the sites in the network are pretty dire if you looked at them (before they removed this facility).
I think the reason they went after BMR was that it worked and was powerful. PR links are/were always going to.
Fred
Thanks Nate, the “spending a lot of money” will be a good guide for me. Fred.
Eli - IM Newbie since 2007
hi nate, in my case i have several sites that have been ranked using BMR and I think I am starting to feel the effect of them closing down.
my ranks on many of my keywords are slowly dropping..
its tiring to know that i have to do this again from the beginning
Nate
It’s an ever-changing game my friend… I’ll miss BMR as well.